16th Sunday after Pentecost
September 28, 2025
Wolf Kirchmeir
Moses and the Prophets
Jeremiah 32:1-3a, 6-15; Psalm 91:1-6, 14-16; 1 Timothy 6:6-19; Luke 16:19-31
O Holy Spirit, assist us we contemplate your word, that we may be enlightened by your truth. Amen.
Dear Friends in Christ,
When I read the Gospel for today, I realised I had a rather hazy memory of the parable about the rich man and Lazarus, the beggar at his gate. This time, I noticed the last part of the dialogue. I paid attention, and my thinking took a sideways jump, and I thought, Who do you trust? That’s what this is about.
I suspect that many of us, perhaps most of us, focus on the rich man with his fine clothes and his good food. And then Lazarus, the beggar at his gate, covered in sores, grateful for the scraps from the rich man’s table. The dogs came and licked Lazarus’s sores.
I think that this vivid image of self-centred indifference and undeserved suffering makes a strong impression us. Such a strong impression that when we hear of the rich man’s suffering in Hades, we may well feel, Yes, that guy deserves his suffering. And we may think that the lesson is simple: Help whomever is there for you to help, or you’ll be sorry when you burn in hell. Abraham’s words reinforce that idea:
“Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.”
And if the parable ended there, that would be all the lesson we would take from it.
But it doesn’t end there. The story continues. The rich man wants to warn his brothers, so that they may escape the punishment.
“Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.”
Abraham replied, “They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.”
“No, father Abraham,” he said, “but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.”
He said to him, “If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.” (Luke 16:27-31)
“If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.” That got me thinking about trust. I’ll share some of my thoughts with you.
What does it take to convince you of something you didn’t believe? Whom do you trust to tell you the truth? Especially a hard truth? How do you know whether to trust advice? What rules do you use to separate nonsense from wisdom? Or useful knowledge from balderdash?
And so on.
I went online to find jokes about trust. Most of them were puns, like this one:
Trust me, you should never punch rocks. I found out the hard way.
Well, OK, that’s not exactly a prize winner, and the few stories weren’t much better. Here’s one that I think may amuse and perhaps instruct:
Last night at the pub my friend told me he doesn't trust doctors.
When I asked why, he said, "About ten years ago I developed a limp and a pain in my leg. I went to the doctor and he told me that the problem was that one of my legs was shorter than the other, and that I would need to wear special shoe inserts to even them out."
I replied, "That doesn't sound crazy. Why would that make you distrust doctors?"
He said, "Well, I wanted a second opinion, so I went to another doctor and wouldn't you know it, he told me I had the exact opposite problem! That proves that you can't trust 'em, they're just making wild stabs in the dark."
"So what did the second doctor tell you the problem was?"
"He said that one of my legs was *longer* than the other!"
Well, so maybe that one wouldn’t win a prize either, but it does illustrate something about why we may not trust what people say. It depends on how well we understand them. If they say something that doesn’t make sense to us, how likely are we to trust them?
I think it’s fairly obvious that when it comes to knowledge and understanding, we are expert in a very, very small part of all there is to know and understand. Most of what we think we know we don’t actually know at all. We just know that someone else knows, and we trust them, and take their word for it.
And anyhow, do we really need to know all the details of how something works? For example, how many of us could explain how a thermostat senses the temperature so that it can turn the furnace on or off?
Fact is, we don’t need to know all the details of how something works so that we can use it as intended. However, we do need a fair measure of trust in the people that make the gizmos we rely on.
Which brings us back to question, Who do you trust? Why do you trust them?
Abraham’s answer to the rich man implies that the rich man’s brothers think they know all they need to know. They weren’t ready to believe someone who came along and told them they did not know something that they should know. Especially if that something required a change in how they lived their lives. In other words, their trust in the messenger in large part would depend on what the messenger told them.
I think it’s fairly clear that we all tend to behave that way. Why trust someone who comes along with some outlandish claim, especially if that claim means we should change the way we do things? Why change what works just because someone says it will end badly?
So who do you trust? Why do you trust them?
Most of us are on some social media platform. We use email and texting. Many of us still watch the news on TV or listen to it on the radio, but many of us also get our news online. The Millennials and Gen Z live on TikTok and Instagram. Then there’s X, which was once called Twitter, and a variety of other places where anyone can subscribe and post whatever they like. You can find a website for anything that interests you.
How trustworthy are these sources?
The short answer is, not very. There’s a saying, We used to think that the cure for ignorance was easy access to the facts. Then we got the internet.
We are born trusting. When we were children, we believed just about anything that grown-ups told us. We did figure out fairly early what’s make-believe and what’s real, and we loved make-believe. We spent a lot of time figuring out how things work. That started pretty early too, when we put just everything in our mouths. If it tasted good, it must be food.
And so on. Around age two to three, we learned not only that we can make-believe, we learned that we can lie. I think that’s the beginning of mistrust. By the time we got to middle school, we had a healthy skepticism of outlandish claims, but we also had a fascination with the possibility that those outlandish claims were true. Maybe there really were ghosts in the graveyard. Better not get too close at night. Better to walk or run past it.
But all in all, we grew up trusting each other. And we still trust each other. Without that trust, we couldn’t live together. Trust is the foundation on which our common life rests. When trust erodes, when we start suspecting each other of lies or worse, that foundation begins to crumble.
So who do you trust? Why do you trust them?
It seems to me that trust is fundamentally personal. We trust those with whom we have a personal relationship. When we trust people we don’t know personally, we do so because they are part of a web of personal relationships that connect us to them. Somewhere along the line we learned to trust what they say, because people we know trust them. We trust them because they are part of the web of relationships that forms our community.
Trust is personal in another sense. We trust our own personal experience of what works. What we’ve learned works is the centre of a web of knowledge which connects with what other people have learned. We will distrust any claim that doesn’t easily fit into that web. The stronger the mismatch between some claim and what we think we know, the more we resist accepting it. And the more we will distrust anyone who insists on its truth.
Finally, there’s how we feel. We don’t like feelings of uncertainty, or of risk. We don’t like feeling that we’re not taken seriously. We don’t like feeling that maybe we’re being fooled. We don’t like feeling that we’re wrong. We have trouble trusting people that arouse these feelings.
"If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.”
Imagine you’re one of the rich man’s brothers. You’re well off. You enjoy good food and lots of it You enjoy the company of people like yourself. You have servants to do the grunge work. You’re well respected in the town. You have a reputation for canny but fair dealing among your fellow business people. You have more than enough. You feel secure.
And now this figure appears. He looks a lot like that beggar Lazarus that used to lie by your door and attracted dogs. But it can’t be him. Lazarus is dead! Besides, this person looks a lot better than Lazarus did. He wears clean clothes and has no sores. He has a good complexion, and moves easily as he walks towards you. Nothing like Lazarus!
He stops in front of you, and says, “I am Lazarus come back from the dead to bring you news of your brother!” You think, this can’t be true! Lazarus is dead! This is some kind of scam.
This figure goes on, “Your brother is in great torment as punishment for his idle ways.” What’s this? News from my dead brother? Not possible!
Lazarus goes on, “Your brother says, Repent your idle ways! Share your good fortune with the poor!”
Really? Share what I’ve worked so hard for? As if those lazy layabouts deserved a share of what I’ve earned? No way. This is some kind of scam. He’s trying to scare me into giving away what’s rightfully mine. Nice try! I bet this scammer will be the first in line for a handout. And he’ll come back for more!
There’s no way you will trust this person who claims to be Lazarus returned from the dead.
So who do you trust? Why do you trust them?
At the core of trust there is faith. Basically, we just believe that the person can be trusted, that what they say can be trusted, that their promises can be trusted, that their testimony of personal experience can be trusted. Trust and faith are really the same attitude to life, the universe, and everything.
We too have Moses and the Prophets. We have the Gospels and the letters of Paul and others to the early church. We are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses. We believe that 2000 years ago a man born in an obscure village was the Son of God, and that he died a cruel death on a cross, and three days later appeared to his followers, assuring them that their wrongdoings were forgiven, and that they too would taste eternal life. By the grace of the Holy Spirit we trust that these and many other claims are true, and we pray that the same Spirit will guide and strengthen us so that we may reshape our lives as a testimony to the truth of what we believe.
May all that we have contemplated today increase our trust in the God who made us, who redeemed us, and who guides us. Amen